Bugscope archived session

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Connected on 2007-10-08 19:30:00 from , KS, US

7:28 pm
Bugscope TeamOh no we lost Mrs Phelps
Bugscope TeamJon was a medic too.
Bugscope Teamjon, what kind of asian arts?
Bugscope Teamone that ends on a vowel
Bugscope Teamhhmm, karate?
Bugscope Teamnope
Bugscope TeamKenPo
Bugscope Teamjujitsu... wait, don't they ALL end in vowels?
Bugscope Teamnope
Bugscope TeamJuJitSu
Bugscope Team:)
Bugscope Teamsumo wrestling?
Bugscope Teamnope
Bugscope Teamyeah Sumo ends in a vowel -- that's it. Better start eating.
Bugscope Teamdaruma
Bugscope Teamnope
Bugscope Teammomotaro
Bugscope Teammeans peach boy
Bugscope Teamlike Cate is an Otaku.
7:34 pm
Bugscope TeamCarol let us know what's going on over there. Should we give you control?
Bugscope TeamCarol is on Firefox.
Bugscope TeamAhh Mrs Phelps is back! Phew!
Bugscope TeamMrs Phelps you can drive if you'd like.
Bugscope TeamHello!
Bugscope TeamWelcome to bugscope!

Bugscope Teamwe can give control of the microscope to anyone who'd like to try it...

Bugscope Teamand if you have any questions please just ask, we like questions.
Bugscope Teamyeah you bet I was just driving to the fruit fly eye here -- the compound eye
Bugscope Teamthe microscope is an evironmental scanning electron microscope (ESEM)
StudentWhat is this?
StudentEye of fly
Bugscope Teamand you can try some of the presets to the lower right too
Studentwhat is it
Bugscope Teamthis is a comopound eye of a fruit fly
Bugscope Teamyou can see a bunch of the setae that are normally positioned between the individual eye facets are busted off
Bugscope Teamthis is a fruit fly eye
7:39 pm
Bugscope Teamcompound eye
Studentwhat are the pointy things
Bugscope Teamthose are setae, they help the bug sense its environment
Bugscope Teammany insect eyes have hairs inbetween the individual facets of the eye. insects can be very hairy.
Bugscope Teammade up of lots of tiny facets called ommatidia
Bugscope Teamthe pointy things are setae (hairs) that are normally standing up between the ommatidia
Bugscope Teamsome kind of dirt
Bugscope Teamsome of the setae are broken off, and are laying around...
Bugscope TeamJoel would you like to drive?
StudentYes
Bugscope Teamyou can change the magnification, move around in two different ways (drive or click to center), change the focus and adjust the brightness and contrast...
Bugscope TeamYou can try clicking on a preset, or changing the mag, or going somewhere else
Bugscope Teamjoel, you have control now.
StudentHow many objects does a fly see at once?
Bugscope Teamyou should now see controls you couldn't see before, Joel
Bugscope Teamthe fly sees multiple images of the same things, pretty much

Bugscope TeamHey the praying mantis
Studenthow long do they live
Bugscope Teamnotice the magnification at the top right, it is currently 111x. you can change that joel, as you wish.
Bugscope TeamI think they last one short season

Bugscope Teamthe scope can magnify up to 600,000x, but for insects and bugs we most often see 50x - 30,000 times.
StudentWhat are the spikes?
Bugscope Teamthis is a very small praying mantis

Bugscope Teamthe spikes are used to grab and hold onto its prey
Bugscope Teamsome of the spikes help is grab, d'oh!, as Cate said

Bugscope Teampraying mantids get so big that they can eat small birds, reptiles and even some mammals

7:44 pm

Bugscope Teamcloseup of the face

Bugscope Teambut those would be too big to look at in the scope
Bugscope Teamif anyone else wants control of the scope, just let us know. only one person can control at a time, and we have to switch it.
Bugscope Teamthe small pointy thing we saw was a palp
Bugscope Teamone of the modified limbs that is a mouthpart
Bugscope TeamHi Chas!
Bugscope TeamHi guys

Bugscope Teamnotice here the arm on the left is in focus, but the background wasn't.... there is true depth of field.
Bugscope TeamJoel is driving from Ulysses.

Bugscope Teamcoolness

Bugscope Teamnice click to cneter joel
Bugscope Teamthis is the edge of a compound eye, and you can see the pollen grain we found on it
Studentwhat are the ridges on the eye
Bugscope Teamthe ridges are probably due to the sample dehydrating, although frequently there is some texture on the ommatidia (or facets) of more advanced eyes
Bugscope Teamthis is kind of a cool view of the eye
Bugscope Teamyou can see that the eye is a little dry and shrunken
Bugscope Teamif you want you can take the mag down lower, see where you are

Bugscope TeamCool!

StudentWhat would the equivalent eye part be on the human eye?

Bugscope TeamWell it's sort of like a whole bunch of human eyes
Bugscope Teamnotice the measuring tool on the bottom left of your image. you can grab that tool and take measurments of things in the image, if you like.
Bugscope Teameach of those sections is like just one of our eyes
Bugscope Teamthey seem to have something like rods/cones, some of them, like moths
7:49 pm
Bugscope Teamsome eyes are more complex, and some insects can see in the ultraviolet, which we cannot

Bugscope Teamyou can't resize the scale bar, but it does help give you a perspective for the size of the objects you're seeing. 60 µm (microns) is 60 millionths of a meter, or about the width of a human hair
Bugscope Teamto the right you see silver paint, which Cate put on to minimize charging with these scales

Bugscope Teamthe silver paint also holds this piece of butterfly wing down

Bugscope TeamI think it's a Monarch wing.
Bugscope Teamyes thats right scott
Bugscope TeamYou can see, also, that the scales are much like feathers
Bugscope Teamthe scales are what make the wings feel so silky when you touch them
Bugscope Teamthey would come off in a spider web
Bugscope Teamwe lost joel, we need to give someone else control...
Bugscope Teamwho wants to drive?
Bugscope TeamBug now has control.
Bugscope Teami gave control to bug.
Bugscope TeamJan is here as well.
Bugscope Teamhi jan, are you from the school board meeting as well? or are you from somewhere else?
Bugscope TeamJan would you like to drive?
7:55 pm
Bugscope TeamWe can give you control if you would like
Bugscope Teamjan, you've got control, you should see new control buttons on the right of your browser window
GuestI am a teacher in Ottawa Ks. A teacher told me about this site who is at the board meeting though. This is really cool, I'm fine with just watching, thank you though!
Bugscope Teambug is the only person left from the Ulysses students
Bugscope Teamah, okay.
Bugscope TeamWhere is Ottawa? Isn't that in the east?
GuestEastern Kansas, 20 minutes south of Lawrence
Bugscope Teamthey are in kansas i think
Bugscope TeamYeah that's what I thought. I used to live in Lawrence.

Bugscope Teamcool! way to change the mag!
Bugscope TeamBe sure to click on a preset if you would like. Nothing to it
GuestI joined late and I'm not sure what I'm looking at
Bugscope Teamthis is a Monarch wing.
Bugscope Teamscales on the wing
Bugscope TeamYou should see a bunch of presets on the right of this---->
Bugscope TeamAnd if you click on one, you can...
Bugscope Teamthe microscope you are controlling is an ESEM (environmental scanning electron microscope)

Bugscope TeamThis is a fruit fly, head-on.

Bugscope Teamnice, getting up close to its chompers...
Bugscope TeamI went to KU, which is where I first got to run electron microscopes
8:00 pm
Bugscope Teama long time ago
GuestI'm still bitter about Saturday's game I bleed purple!
Guestcan I move it to see an eye?
Bugscope Teamhey, our football team has been TERRIBLE for years, and now we are fianlly winning some games.
Bugscope TeamYou bet.
Bugscope Teamyou can use the click to center feature if you want
Guesthow? Where do I go?
Bugscope Teamtry click to center, that's easier. if you are ambisious, try click to drive.
Bugscope Teamyou should see some controls on the right side of your browser
Bugscope TeamNavigation
Bugscope Teamup where it says navigation, click on click to center
Bugscope Teamthen some blueish buttons, "Click to Drive" and "Click to Center"

Bugscope Teamdo you see those buttons? if not, try hitting refresh (F5)
Bugscope Teammy dad almost got disowned for going to KU rather than K State (purple for you guys here)
Bugscope Teamyou might have to expand your browser window to see all the controls
GuestI clicked the center button and nothing is happening
Bugscope Teamah, now, click anywhere in the image
Bugscope TeamHmmm.
Bugscope Teamand it will take you to that spot

Bugscope TeamYeah cool.
Bugscope Teamit will actually move the microscope based on your input
Bugscope Teamthere ya go!!!!
Guestok, got it now, is this the eye?
Bugscope TeamNow you can change the mag if you want.
Bugscope TeamThis is the left eye.
Bugscope Teamoops I mean right eye

Bugscope Teamyep, this is a compound eye, with a bunch of hairs (setae) sticking out of it

Bugscope Teamgnarly

8:05 pm
Bugscope Teamthis is another eye, at the edge
Guestthis is so cool, my mom is one of the teachers who presented at the board meeting in ulysses
Bugscope Teamvery nice, this is another insect eye, with a small piece of pollen on it

Bugscope Teamreally...
Bugscope Teamglad you like it!
Bugscope TeamMy family is mostly from western kansas
GuestWhat are the hexagon shaped things?
Bugscope Teamthose are the individual eye facets. called ommatidia
Bugscope Teamthey are a little wrinkled from being dry
Bugscope Teamthe eye of an insect is very interesting, lots of individual facets to it.
Bugscope Teameach ommatidia sees a seperate image
Bugscope Teamif you want you can take the mag down and see what the resf of the head looks like

Bugscope Teamnow you can click to center again if you want
Guestno, I came back just to see this, she thought is was pretty cool, she was right

Bugscope Teamwell, i mean, do you go to school, high school, college?
Bugscope Teamwe are a little concerned that we lost them
Bugscope Teamif you'd like to do a bugscope session with your school, we accept just about everyone who wants to do a session...
Bugscope Teamit may have been a short part of the meeting
Guestduh, sorry! no, I am an elementary teacher, this is my 3rd year

Bugscope Teamwell we would accept you for sure if you want
Bugscope Teamthis is K through 12.
8:11 pm
GuestI teach 1st grade, do you get many primary grades? It seems like it is a bit advanced for them
Bugscope Teamif you are interested, just email bugscope@itg.uiuc.edu.
Bugscope Teamthe kids would probably have to have someone else drive, and maybe someone else forward their questions
GuestIt is definitely something I am going to let the intermediate grades know about
Bugscope Teambut I think it would be fun
Bugscope Teami think we like doing sessions for younger kids too
GuestI think my kids would think it was cool, but I don't know if they would get it
Bugscope Teammy grandmother Robinson taught 1st grade in Lakin
Bugscope Teamyounger kids can be very impressionable, and even though they might not understand everything, they might gain some interest in science they wouldn't have otherwise...
Bugscope Teamwe are all for helping kids to learn about science, even if it is just a "whoa, that is so cool!"
Guestmaybe if we had the same bug here so they could compare, it is definitely worth looking into, especially if they are insects they have heard of before
Bugscope Teamwe also let you send us bugs in the mail. some teachers have taken kids outside, found some bugs, send them to us, and those are the bugs the kids look at.
Bugscope Teamyeah we would be glad to do it Jan, even if it was a short session
GuestI think that is what they did in ulysses isn't it? Sent the bugs to you?
Bugscope Teamyes they sent them to us for their session earlier
Bugscope Teamthis evening we used another set of critters
Bugscope Teamthey don't last long, and we don't like to use them over again anyway
GuestWhat am I looking at now?
Bugscope Teama lady bug head
8:16 pm
Guestthe top of the head of the ladybug?
Bugscope Teamthis is what looks like, to us, a tiny ladybug
Bugscope Teamyep!
Bugscope Teamyes it
Bugscope Teamis, from the underside

Guestokay! Is that the mouth?

Bugscope Team insects arent very interesting to look at from their back
Bugscope Teamwhen we set a session up we try to put what you want to see as presets -- yes this is the mouthy
Bugscope Teammouth
Bugscope TeamI type so slowly
Bugscope Teamwe try to find cool kind of yucky stuff for the kids to see

Bugscope Teamlike a big claw
GuestThis is the type os thing my kids could relate too b/c they have all had a june bug stick to them
Bugscope Teamyou can tell from looking at this claw that this june bug could not climb a wall very well, or hang on the ceiling
Guestthis is why they stick to you right?
Bugscope Teamnow you can see why the stick
Bugscope Teamthey stick
Bugscope Teambut it could easily grab your clothes or cling to your hand
8:21 pm
Bugscope Teamin fact, some june bug claws might still have human skin in them that we could see in the microscope. scott ever think you've seen that?
Bugscope Teamyou could compare this claw to one from a fly, which has a pad called a pulvillus on it with tiny sticky setae on it
Bugscope Teamflies are pretty cool -- house flies -- to look at
Guestoh yeah, I bet.
Bugscope Teamdon't forget airwigs
Bugscope Teamearwigs*
Bugscope Teamsometimes we put salt crystals, or sugar, in as well.
GuestHow long have you guys been doing this?
Bugscope Teamalmost 9 years
Bugscope Teami am just starting

Bugscope Teamwe started in March of 1999
Bugscope Teamso 8+ years I guess
Bugscope Teamthis is the second version of the software though. chas built this web interface.
Bugscope Teamthe software is much improved
Bugscope Teamthis version is much better for users and for us too....
Bugscope Teamyeah the interface is aqesome
Bugscope Teamawesome
GuestIt is just amazing that this is possible

8:26 pm
Guestis this the cricket head?
Bugscope TeamJan this is the most fun thing we do, usually, in a week
Bugscope Teamthis is the abdomen of the june bug I think

Bugscope Teamyeah, at other times i'm dealing with mail servers and blechk, stuff like that....
Bugscope Teamyou can get to the cricket head by clicking ont he preset
Bugscope Teamyou can scroll to preset 2
Bugscope Teamon the right there

Bugscope Teamthis is a particularly good microscope

Bugscope Teamit has better resolution than most scanning electron microscopes
GuestWhat does that warning mean?
Bugscope Teamso we are very lucky
Bugscope Teamumm we don't see it on our screens

Bugscope Teamwhat warning?

Bugscope Teamdid it tell you to wait until one command was done before moving again?
Guestitsays you are proabably at the max or min of that control
Bugscope Teamwe get that sometimes, and it only shows up on the controller's screen
Bugscope Teamoh the mag can't go any ower
Bugscope Teamlower
Bugscope Teamyeah that means we cannot go to a lower mag -- it means this is a big bug
Bugscope Teamah, yes, since you are controlling the scope, there are certain limits we impose so the scope doesn't get damaged or out of wack, and you are just seeing those limits.
Bugscope Teamnp problem
Bugscope Teamno problem
Bugscope Teamno big deal though...
GuestDo you guys have anything from a millipede? That is our class pet and the kids would like that
Guestor is that too big
Bugscope Teamooh one of those with long legs or short legs?
Bugscope Teama millipede is the class pet? what happened to hamsters and rabbits lol
8:31 pm
Bugscope Teamumm they might not be happy to see a dead one in the 'scope
Guestshort legs
Bugscope Teami guess millipedes arent as expensive
Guestlol
GuestI think if they knew it wasn't ours they would be okay
Bugscope Teamthe stub is only 1.75 inches across
Bugscope Teamokay we can do it
Bugscope Teamthe cousin of yours
Bugscope Teamthe stub is what we put the bugs on into the microscope, so the bug can't be bigger than that.
Bugscope Teamhow long is it?

GuestMy mom got it at a science fair last year. I had 2 I wish I would have known about this b/c one died
Guestabout 4 inches long right now

Bugscope Teamwow that sounds like a centipede
Guestcould you put a piece of one on there

GuestIt isn't a centipede, we wouldn't have that as a class pet
Bugscope Teamyeah we could; just have to get the right one
Bugscope Teamyeah that would be scary
Bugscope Teamsend us a photo of it?
Guestwho am I telling you that you are wrong lol
Bugscope Team:)
Bugscope Teamwe're not entomologists. and Annie is not on this evening'
Bugscope Teamscott does know a lot about insects though...
GuestSure, I'll prep Bear for his/her photo shoot (the kids named it)
Bugscope Teamwe know a little bit about insects/arthropods after doing this for a while
Bugscope TeamCOOL.
8:37 pm
Guest this is the abdomen of a ....?
Bugscope Teamwe can probably get one from CBS (Carolina Biological Supply)
Bugscope Teamthis, now, it is hard to tell, is the narrow part of the haltere of a fruit fly

Guestoh wow, that alot of hair
Bugscope Teamthe haltere is the little thing like a speedbag for a boxer that balances the motion of the wing

Bugscope Teamnow you can start to see it, to the south there
Bugscope Teamyeah, many insects are a lot hairy than most people think

Bugscope Teaminsects are a lot hairier than they often seem
Bugscope Teamlots and lots of tiny setae, which is what we are supposed to call hair
Guestwhere is this on the fly?

Bugscope Teamsome of the setae are mechanosensory and some are chemosensory
Bugscope Teamnear the wing
Bugscope Teamkeep zooming out, you'll see

Bugscope Teamit is adjacent to one of the wings -- there is one on each side
GuestIs there one on both sides
Bugscope Teamyeppers
Guestha, can't type fast enough

Bugscope Teamit moves opposite the way the wing does and functions like a gyroscope, like a stabilizer for two-winged insect
Bugscope Teams
Bugscope Teamwhat is cool about wings is that two wings are more efficient, generally, than four

Bugscope Teamso a wasp, for example, has four wings but hooks the fore and hindwings together when it flies

8:42 pm

Bugscope Teamit has tiny hooks called hamuli on the edges of two of its wings

Bugscope Teamthe abdomen is shrunken
Bugscope Teamdried up
Guestthis is proabably a stupid question but what is that string like thing on the bottom of the legs
Bugscope Teamno doubt, what is that string?
Bugscope Teamit's likely dust
Bugscope Teamyou could go look
Bugscope Teama small strand of some kind of fiber

Bugscope Teamsometimes we see web, from spiders
Bugscope Teamand sometimes fungal hyphae

Bugscope Teamsometimes even human hair
Guestdo you ever look at mold or anything undr here
Bugscope Teamwe can't help but do it sometimes
Bugscope Teamwe can see bacteria when they are on a sample

GuestI think human hair would be cool
Bugscope Teamsometimes we see mold spores
Bugscope Teamyou could compare curly hair and straight hair, for example

Bugscope Teamwe could try to find the mites that are supposed to live on eyelashes
Guestgosh, those look sharp
8:47 pm
Bugscope Teamyou know Jan if you image earwigs, they often have mites on them
Bugscope Teamyeah these are intended to hold prey
GuestI'm showing my ignorance here but what is an earwig? I've heard of it but apparently don't know what it is
Bugscope Teamthe seta on the right lets the mantis know if it is holding something

Bugscope Teamearwigs are those beetle-like things that have pincer tails
Bugscope Teamthey live near tomato plants, among other things
Guestoh

Bugscope Teamcheck out the wikipedia page on earwigs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig
Bugscope Teamand they come inside the house sometimes
Bugscope Teamthey are called dermaptera

Bugscope Teamthe tails are called cercopods
Bugscope Teamheh, earwig can also be used as a verb meaning: to attempt to influence by persistent confidential argument or talk
Bugscope Teamyeah i am not a fan of finding them

Bugscope Teamif you try to pick them up they whip their pincers around fast
Bugscope Teamyou could use them as temporary earrings
Bugscope Teamhah
Guest: )
Bugscope Teamvery cool fashion statement
Bugscope TeamAlex that is like when someone says put a bug in your ear
GuestAre you all in the same room? this can't be your normal "hours"
Bugscope Teami am at home
Bugscope Teamat home for me too
Bugscope Teami'm sitting next to the microscope... freezing...
8:52 pm
Bugscope TeamCate is home, Alex is by the 'scope, I am in my office not far from the 'scope, Jon is not far from the TV
Bugscope Teamjon is watching heros...
Bugscope Teamit'sold down here; the 'scope is 23 feet underground
Bugscope Teamcold
Bugscope Teamdown here

Bugscope Teamwishes he was watching the yankees lose....
GuestI missed prison break to come see this
Bugscope TeamJan now you know this is easy to do -- you can run a session from Ottawa
Bugscope Teamlooks like you need a tivo too
Bugscope Teamthat is good of you, Jan. we are glad
Guestyes, this is cool. Maybe we will go bug hunting soon
Bugscope Teamis prison break good?
Guestit is getting cold though
Bugscope Teambefore it gets too cold outside
GuestYeah, it is good but you have to catch all the episodes or you'll be lost
Bugscope Teamthe cold is coming our way isn't it?
Guestprobably, it has been hot here so we are welcoming the middle 70s
Bugscope Teamyou are like a day ahead of us with the weather
8:57 pm
GuestWell I better go. This was cool, if I schedule a session will it be you guys who do it?
Bugscope Teamit was a pleasure having you jan.
Bugscope Teamhope to see an application from ya
Bugscope Teamyes it will be us for sure and we will be glad to see you
Bugscope Teamyes, we do it. some dudes and dudettes
Bugscope Teamyou know how to find us
Bugscope Teamplus annie, who is very nice too
Bugscope Teamand tell your mom she set you up
Bugscope Teamyeah Annie keeps us from telling kids that lobsters are just large bugs
Guestsounds like you have a pretty cool jobs, this will definitely get my kids interested in science
Bugscope Teamgood deal
Bugscope Teamwe like what we do, and this is a total kick
Bugscope Teamsometimes we have 20 kids typing questions all at once
GuestSee you later! Thank you!
Bugscope Teambye
Bugscope TeamThank You!
Bugscope Teambye!
9:02 pm
Bugscope Teamall right see ya guys tomorrow
Bugscope Teamgood night all

Name	USD 214 Ulysses
Web site	http://www.ulysses.org
Location
Community	Rural
Type	Public

Subjects	USD 214 School Board
Grades	5th Grade, Other
Students	20

Title	USD 214 Ulysses School Board
Insects	variety
Description	The fifth grade students at Sullivan Elementary, Mrs. Shelley Phelps , and Ms. Susan Alexander are going to demonstrate to the USD 214 School Board the Bugscope. The school board members will get a chance to participate in a Bugscope session and see how technology is being integrated into the classroom.

USD 214 Ulysses
Session 2007-060

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Connected on 2007-10-08 19:30:00 from , KS, US

USD 214 UlyssesSession 2007-060

Application

School

Class

Project

Miscellaneous

Transcript

Connected on 2007-10-08 19:30:00 from , KS, US

USD 214 Ulysses
Session 2007-060