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- Bugscope Team vac ok, starting presets
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- Bugscope Team hi guests, welcome to bugscope!
- Guest what exactly am i looking at?
- Guest hi
- Guest howdy
- Bugscope Team are you from the school? avon high school?
- Guest yo yo yo
- Guest yes
- Guest duh
- Guest yes
- Guest pizza
- Guest don't make fun of my initials
- Bugscope Team cool. where is your teacher? normally we prefer the teacher to login first, and then you all can login as students...
- Guest shes not on yet
- Guest she's not logged in yet
- Guest what's up mags
- Guest not much, yourself?
- Guest just chillin
- Guest that's cool
- Guest that looks like a shoe1
- Guest oh yeah
- Bugscope Team presets done, unlocking the session now
- Guest ok
- Guest ITS ALIVE
- Guest your mom is alive
- Guest OMG
- Guest my mom is dead
- Guest not cool
- Guest that sucks.
- Guest my mom sucks
- Guest no
- Guest she did suck
- Guest byee.
- Guest bugscope sucks
- Bugscope Team uh oh
- 10:31am
- Guest wow.
- Guest hi
- Guest hey
- Guest uh oh what?
- Guest wat up?
- Bugscope Team good morning!
- Guest nothin
- Bugscope Team welcome to bugscope
- Bugscope Team welcome back
- Guest hola
- Guest howdy
- Bugscope Team rockscope today
- Guest hola back player
- Guest thanx, good to be back
- Bugscope Team buenas dias
- Bugscope Team among diatoms
- Guest estoy moy bien
- Guest baiser moi saussison
- Guest erzahlen mir nicht so einen mist bugscope!
- Guest you guys are weird.
- Guest FU
- Guest travis
- Guest watch yourself.
- Bugscope Team mrs. krucina, do you have any questions? you have control of the scope.
- Guest travis
- Bugscope Team this looks like a limestone sample with a lot of crinoid stems and shells on it
- Guest ic
- Student hola senorss.
- Guest neato
- Guest no
- 10:36am
- Bugscope Team we can't go lower than about 60x mag, and it is hard to get perspective that way
- Guest wat is that
- Guest wat is that?
- Student what are we looking at?
- Bugscope Team if you select a preset you can see some of the areas we've already highlighted for you
- Guest was ist dass? what is that?
- Guest your dad
- Guest the white thing
- Student that's awesome.
- Guest wat is that thing?
- Bugscope Team this is a lot of debris on the surface of the sample
- Bugscope Team it might be some sort of plant material
- Guest take off you pants and jacket
- Guest yes
- Student this is boring me.
- Guest mmm hmm
- Bugscope Team the sample has lots of unknown things on it, so we made the presets for you, we know what the presets are
- Bugscope Team we are finding a lot of diatoms, some pollen, some plant material, as Cate said, and even some brochosomes
- Guest are you kidding this is AMAZING!!!! :D
- Guest is that a fossil?
- Guest whos scot he is smart
- Guest does it have bugs in it]
- Student you are weird, if you think this is amazing.
- Guest wat r brochosomes
- Guest whats a buckyball?!!??!?!?!?
- Bugscope Team brochosomes are tiny pellet-like bodies that resemble wiffleballs, in a way
- Guest what's that
- Guest oh cool
- Guest i see
- Guest wats this?
- Bugscope Team that looks pretty cool
- Student what's a fullerene?
Bugscope Team Fullerenes are a family of carbon allotropes, molecules composed entirely of carbon, in the form of a hollow sphere, ellipsoid, tube, or plane. Spherical fullerenes are also called buckyballs, and cylindrical ones are called carbon nanotubes or buckytubes. (from wikipedia)
- Bugscope Team buckyballs are carbon 60, and they are really too small for us to see
- Bugscope Team the submarine shaped things are diatoms
- Guest whats the big thing on the left
- Guest oic
- Guest is that a diatom??????
- Guest what are diatoms?
- Guest wat is that it look a seed
- Student what's the giant round thing?
- Bugscope Team that is a pollen grain
- Student sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
- Bugscope Team to the right is a diatom
- Guest Whats the giant thing with a dot in it?
- Guest cewl
- Student goooo calcite!
- Bugscope Team jj that is a pollen grain, partly collapsed
- Guest is this stuff on me
- Guest ohh mmmmmmmKaaay
- Guest so are there any shells?
Bugscope Team preset #4 is a sea shell
- 10:41am
- Guest this looks like a mini moon or something
- Bugscope Team MJS probably not, but you could get it on you if you were in the dirt
- Guest yea but i mean are there any shells other then the preset one?
- Student that looks like a shell
- Guest in regard of "yourmom" I'm sorry
- Guest whats the circle thing in the center bottom?
- Guest wat is the white thing up top
- Bugscope Team ER there are more shells; it is just that we are so close it is hard to make out the shapes
- Guest what is the thing in the bottom left
- Guest who is yourmom
- Guest megan
- Student no I'm not1
- Bugscope Team anything that looks interesting you can magnify
- Student !*
- Guest thank u
- Guest wat is that thing in the middle?
- Guest What is the white thing that is pertruding at the bottom close to the middle?
Bugscope Team we arent sure what everything is, it looks like some sort of debris
- Bugscope Team diatoms comes in many different shapes, but most of them so far resemble canoes, or submarines
- Bugscope Team the teacher has control of the scope, she can try to find a shell and magnify it?
- Guest where do you think this rock originated
- Guest what is that thing on the right?
- Guest Is it possible that it is a leaf or something that has been cemented into the rock?
- Guest how is this stuff so small?
- Student diatom!
- Bugscope Team clearly this was once silt at the bottom of a river or lake, or ocean
- Guest Scot is awesome
- Guest AW=lonely
- Guest agreed
- Bugscope Team do you all know where the sample came from?
- Student I feel some tension between Scot and I.
- Bugscope Team there are LOTS of diatoms on this
- Bugscope Team Hey we are cool yourmom
- Student thanks, that's good to know.
- Guest wuts it mean if theres a lot of diatoms?
- Bugscope Team this looks like a good area
- Guest what are these things?
- Bugscope Team ER it means the sample was in dirt, or in a lake or stream
- 10:46am
- Guest wat would make the hole
- Guest that thing on the left looks kinda like a space worm
- Guest ic
- Student it looks like a black hole of doooom.
- Bugscope Team most of the things we see are diatoms, which are silica based
- Guest its a rock guys a rock
- Guest What is the white thing with the half circle opening?
- Guest pacman
- Bugscope Team they're the leftover shells of the diatom organisms
- Student you are my sunshineee.
- Guest no
- Guest cool!
- Guest what is the black and white objectat the bottom right
- Guest ic
- Bugscope Team teacher, focus can be tricky, if one direction doesn't work then go the other... there ya go, nice!
- Guest IS that a hole
- Bugscope Team great job!
- Student yaaaaay!
- Guest failed
- Bugscope Team now the pacman-like thing looks like plant fiber
- Guest so the diatoms were living things at one point?
- Guest chemical analyisis?
- Student do you have a chemical analysis on our sample?
Bugscope Team we are going to have to do the x-ray analysis after the session is done because we have to set up the sample differently in the scope
- Guest Have you taken a chemical analysis on the sample?
- Bugscope Team A.H. yeah
- Guest chemical analysis??????
- Guest pacman had too much fiber in his diet
- Guest neato
- Student what is the sample composed of?
- Guest lol
- Guest why do you have to take an xray of it?
- Bugscope Team we will find that most of the sample is -- probably -- Ca C O.
- Guest the who is good though
- Bugscope Team but some silicon
- Guest yeah
- Guest I like the who
- Student The Beatles are better!
- Guest all time low is a joke
- Guest stop talking about bands
- Guest who?
- Guest yessss
- Guest yes they are
- Guest Were you able to tell what any of the fossils were?
- Student I like All Time Low
- Bugscope Team when we use the electron beam to collect images, like now, we also produce x-rays
- Guest Nirvana is the best
- Student nope, The Beatles!
- Guest isnt that dangerous
- Student I
- Guest guns n roses
- Student any calcite grains in our sample?
- Guest haha wow no
- Bugscope Team and the x-rays have different energies depending on what element the electron beam hits
- Guest Have you found any calcite grains in our sample?
- Guest Sie bitte wegen die Bands reden halten!
- Student I AM BORED.
- Guest get over it
- Guest no your not
- Guest stop saluting u no who
- Student yess, I am.
- 10:51am
- Guest nope
- Student this is boring, and the paper is stupid.
- Guest no its not
- Student shut up, Fluffy!
- Guest how long does this paper have to b
- Guest NO!!!!!
- Bugscope Team kasekopf the x-ray background is called bremsstrahlung -- braking radiation
- Student I will hit you in your face, Fluffy
- Guest travis
- Guest me
- Guest youre a very violent person....
- Student Fluffy is sitting right next to me.
- Guest i know
- Guest no im not
- Student when people annoy me, yes.
- Student you're a creeper!
- Guest Have you found any calcite grains within our sample?
- Guest who ate some poisonous peanut butter
- Bugscope Team what we will do is collect some x-rays and corresponding images after the session
- Bugscope Team i dont think we have found any calcite grains
- Student I actually did.
- Guest whats that white particle?
- Guest what is the white stuff in the middle
- Guest whats the rock lookin thing in the bottom left
- Teacher wat is that white thing
- Guest wats that stuff?
- Guest wats the white thing in the middle, magic?
- Bugscope Team jj and kk that is something that is charging up with electrons
- Guest yes its magic
- Guest ok
- Teacher wat is that
- Guest O O O its magic
- Guest thanks
- Guest you know
- Student it jizzed.
- Guest no its not
- Guest who is mjs?
- Guest down
- Bugscope Team it looks white because the electrons are hitting it and making it look like that -- the electrons cannot escape easily
- Guest michael
- Guest no rocks are super!
- Guest all rocks super?
- Guest wheres them chrinoids?
- Guest what are chrinoids?
Bugscope Team they are small marine animals, part of the Echinoderms
Bugscope Team they are also known as sea-lilies and are a type of marine animal
- Bugscope Team this is huge sample, and we have been looking at only a small part of it
- 10:56am
- Guest thats cute
- Guest yummy
- Guest i think buckyballs are cool =D
- Guest space, the final frontier
- Student hey Cate, can I have your number ;]
- Bugscope Team some crinoids are freeswimming and some are anchored to the substrate
- Guest what is that wheel thing
- Guest Have any fossils been found?
- Guest waht geologic time are the chrinoids from?
- Bugscope Team that is a cross section of a crinoid stem
- Guest what time period was this found
- Guest what is the time period when the chrinoids lived?
- Guest when did these chrinoids live?
- Guest are there any crinoids alive or are they extinct?
Bugscope Team they are still around, just not as numerous as in other periods
- Student pretty sure they're extinct.
- Guest andrew=quiet
- Guest is cate a cutie
- Student since it's a rock.
- Bugscope Team teacher, all the images and chat from this session are saved to your bugscope member page, so you can review this session afterwords and find images of different things you might be looking for. http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-136
- Teacher wat time
- Guest when were they numerous???
- Bugscope Team they are (Wikipedia) said to have died out, for a time, in the Permian
- Guest y did they die out
- Guest wikipedia isnt a good source
- Guest is wikipedia really a false website
- Guest is there any way of knowing when these are from
- Guest yea
- Student what environment to crinods live in?
Bugscope Team they live in both shallow water, but also very deep too
- Guest where can they be located? allover the ocean or like in freshwater places?
- Student crinoids*
- Guest by these i mean chrinoids
- Bugscope Team That is why I qualified what I was saying -- Wikipedia is frequently not altogether correct ;)
- Guest shallow or ocean floor
- Teacher why a sea shell
- Bugscope Team this was part of the sample
- Guest ;) fresh or salt water?
Bugscope Team i'm not sure, but i would guess both
- Guest do crinoids originate in salt water or fresh water
- Bugscope Team salt water
- Guest wikipedia is right
- Guest thanks
- 11:01am
- Guest omg
- Guest please identify the shell
- Guest can you identify the shell?
- Student my name is cooler than yours.
- Bugscope Team when it says 'marine,' that is salt water
- Bugscope Team ok, thanks scott!
- Guest no its not
- Guest studying rocks is for bozo the clown
- Guest mmmk thank you
- Guest my friends a marine
- Guest im more mature than you
- Student he lives in salt water.
- Guest no andrew isnt aw
- Bugscope Team I am sorry we cannot identify the shell
- Guest oh thats ok....
- Student well maybe you should try harder.
- Bugscope Team whoa cool
- Bugscope Team back there
- Guest cool back where?
- Guest back where?
- Student try left of rright.
- Guest your west or mine?
- Guest it's a bunny with sun glasses
- Bugscope Team we went by one of those -- a little further
- Guest keep going
- Student I love potato chips.
- Guest nobodys your sunshine
- Student =)
- Bugscope Team there -- niec!
- Student I'm my own sunshine.
- Bugscope Team oops nice!
- Guest A BUCKEY BALL!!!!!!!!!
- Guest YEPPP
- Bugscope Team a cool little pollen grain
- Guest whats that thing on the left
- Guest andrew do you have a brother thats in scouts?
- Guest are those diatoms?
Bugscope Team yes all the submarine-shaped things are diatoms, we havent really seen any other shape on her other than that
- Bugscope Team we called it a buckyball because of its pattern
- Bugscope Team yes!
- Guest travis stop it
- Guest HIgh Five scot
- Guest yay! =D
- Guest cyber five
- Bugscope Team CJP the fossils we could identify the most are the crinoid stems
- Guest thank you
- Guest How can u tell that ists a she
- Guest focus in better
- 11:06am
- Guest that's better
- Bugscope Team isn't that cool-looking?
- Guest whats that?
- Student what is that?
- Guest is that a buckyball on the top right
- Guest yea wat is it
- Guest the little thing on the diatom, is that debri as well?
- Bugscope Team this is just the shell of the original little dude
- Guest yeah
- Guest whats on top of the diatom?
- Guest wat dude?
- Bugscope Team yes CJP we think that is just debris
- Guest we ant hippies
- Guest what exactly is juju? same as debri?
- Bugscope Team yep, same thing CJP
- Guest is that a pollen grain at the top right
- Bugscope Team just our term for it
- Student I'm a hippie!
- Bugscope Team CJP that is about it
- Guest I think I'm allergic to that stuff
- Guest no your not
- Bugscope Team Stillsmackin we are not sure what the round things are, like that
- Guest so if this came from the bottom of the ocean how did the pollen get there
Bugscope Team well, lots of things not from the ocean have found their way onto this sample, there are some brochosomes as well, which are only from the leafhopper...
- Guest What are the little holes in the diatom for?
- Guest yes I am
- Guest not you mjs
- Guest yeah
- Guest those are weird
- Guest whats the doughnut lookin thing?
- Guest whats the taco shell thing?
- Guest whats a leafhopper?
- Student is that a cherrio?
- Guest that right there what is that
- Guest leafhopper?
- Bugscope Team what was really a surprise to us was finding brochosomes, which are supposed to come exclusively from leafhoppers
- Student Cheerio*
- Guest what is a leafhopper?
- Guest it a fossiled donut guys
- Guest yea whats a leafhopper
Bugscope Team you've seen leafhoppers, they are part of the family Cicadellidae, and they feed on plant leaves, they can have large wings and cool colors...
- Guest ya
- Guest what iz that?
- Guest at the far right center of the screen, is that a shell?
- Guest so theyre cicadas!?!?!?!
- 11:11am
- Student a Cicada?
- Bugscope Team CJP sorry we missed it
- Guest so this could have come from like a shalow sea somwhere
- Guest or butterflys!
- Guest mabe around like rees and what no
- Guest trees**
- Bugscope Team no that is just the family name, cicadas and leafhoppers are both true bugs
- Guest ok thankyou
- Guest do hey resemble praying mantis'?
Bugscope Team not really, praying mantis is more stick like, leafhoppers are fatter. here's a picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Graphocephala_coccinea_6.jpg
- Bugscope Team leafhoppers are usually small and green and you can see them hopping in the plants
- Student oh the little tiny bugs?
- Guest so this sample most likely came from a shallow ocean?
- Student how did a leafhopper get into a rock from the ocean?
- Guest ThanXX
- Bugscope Team hemiptera
- Bugscope Team yourmom that is a good question
- Guest I have my mouth pierced
Bugscope Team well, not that kind of piercing! heh, good one though...
- Guest what would you do for a klondike bar
- Student a lot of things
- Guest sry ms krucina
- Guest What is the white puff?
- Guest In the center of the screen, is that debri/juju as well?
- Bugscope Team we think the fossil must have been around leafhoppers at some later point in time -- recent
- Guest so this sample most likely came from a shallow ocean?
- Guest i would love a klondike bar
- Guest how long have leafhopers been around?
Bugscope Team i don't know, sorry, but they are a very diverse species so that might mean they've been around for a long long time
- Guest so if ther are bugs in here is it safe to assume this rock came from a shorline closet otrees or somthing
- Student I WANT A KLONDIKE BAR, NOW!
- Student break me off a piece of that kit kat bar ;]
- Guest it's italy
- Guest wat is that
- Guest what are we looking at
- Guest so this sample most likely came from a shallow ocean?
- Student it looks metallic
- Teacher WAT IS THAT
- Guest interesting thanks
- Guest WHAT IS THAT!!!????
- 11:17am
- Student would you really?
- Bugscope Team its something that is being affected by the electron beam
- Bugscope Team this is something that did not get coated well
- Bugscope Team like grease or some other kind of juju
- Guest is the electron beam dangerous
- Guest Would it be safe to say that this sample came from a shallow body of water that could have been close to water because of there being bugs? or even a swamp area?
- Student Cate, so how about that number? ;]
- Guest i would break you of a piece of that kit kat bar cate
- Guest is that fractured bone??
- Bugscope Team CJP I think this sample has a recent history as well
- Bugscope Team i bet alex would rather give you his number
- Guest Is this a fractured bone?
- Guest are there any dinosaur bones?
- Student haha, Alex can I have your number? ;]
- Guest recent history?
- Bugscope Team CJP this not likely bone but some kind of shell
- Guest by recent you mean?
- Guest creeper=megan
- Guest is there any bone in this ?
- Student I'm just kidding, gosh, cam down.
- Guest no
- Student it's MEGHAN.
- Student *
- Bugscope Team A.H. and Stillsmackin I mean in the last few years it must've been sitting under a bush or somewhere in the open, outdoors
- Bugscope Team teacher, we drove off the edge, i've fixed it, you should now have control again...
- Guest do you mean recent as in last 20 million years
- Student AW=STFU!
- Bugscope Team MJS we have not see bacteria on it. We could if they were there.
- Guest jeepers creepers
- Guest oh so like the pollen and bugs came from the rock being exposed to like a bush or somthing
Bugscope Team yes, totally
- Guest saweeeet
- Bugscope Team but this is your sample, you tell us where you found it!!!
- Teacher wat is that
- Guest yell at meghan ms krucina, shes not being professional
- Student like, omg gag me with a spoon!
- Bugscope Team rod-shaped bacteria -- the bacilli -- like anthrax -- are about 2 microns long
- Guest the kid who found it isnt here...
- Bugscope Team this is carbon tape we put your sample on
- 11:22am
- Student AW is a snitch.
- Guest oic
- Guest is there any way to tell how long is been out of the water
Bugscope Team that is a good question, but i don't know, maybe scott or cate have an idea?
- Bugscope Team CJP we have not seen any yet
- Guest woah
- Bugscope Team we would have to be at a preety high mag to be able to see bacteria
- Guest So how much of our sample has fossils in it
- Guest would you know what type of bush or tree it might have been located by?
- Guest where was this entire piece from?
- Bugscope Team AW it looks like a large percentage of the sample is an accretion or aggregation of fossils.
- Guest did we go off the edge again
Bugscope Team very close, but your teacher caught it and now we are back to the sample
- Bugscope Team when we see the diatoms, brochs, pollen, etc., that is stuff that has gotten into the cracks within the last several years
- Guest what are some index fossils in this sample that we could use to help date it
- Bugscope Team crinoid
- Guest where was this entire piece from?
- Guest ok cool, good job jeff
- Guest what general age would those give us
- Guest right on jeff
- Guest how old do you think our rock sample is?
- Student would we be able to find bacteria on this rock?
- Guest how old is this rock?
- Guest billions and billions of years
- 11:27am
- Guest you don't know
- Guest i c
- Guest yea how old is it?
- Guest Could you give us an approximate geological time period
- Guest she dont know
- Guest oh ok I was just wondering
- Guest so these shells were in a more recent goelogical time period then
- Guest say about 20 mya
- Guest we are about to go to lunch you guys have a good day
- Bugscope Team AH you could be right -- I think it'
- Guest thats not too far back
- Guest yea thanx
- Bugscope Team is the sea shells that would help you get a more recent date
- Guest Is this more debri/juju?
- Student yay, lunch.
- Student peace out!
- Guest coool thank you kindly
- Guest BYE!!!!
- Guest so if i get on later at home i can look at it again?>
Bugscope Team http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-136
- Bugscope Team bye thanks joining us today
- Guest Thank you for your help. It will help us with our paper.
- Bugscope Team you can go to the session page and look at the saved images that you saw today
- Bugscope Team Mrs. Krucina, all the chat and images from today's session are available on your bugscope members page: http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-136
- Bugscope Team You can go to your bugscope page and look this up later.
- Bugscope Team deus ex machina
- Teacher ok Thank You
- Bugscope Team focus ex machina
- Teacher Thank you for the session. Will you be posting the chemical analysis to the session?
- 11:32am
- Bugscope Team we will probably email the spectra to you some time later
- Bugscope Team we will have to send that separately, with a link
- Teacher I would appreciate it.
- Bugscope Team ok, session disabled, rxl stopped, locked, see you
