Connected on 2007-05-17 18:30:00 from Richland, Washington, USA
- 6:36pm
- Student awe
- Bugscope Team So Page has control...
- Bugscope Team i am chill--because I am FREEZING
- Bugscope Team OK, so the computer logged in as Page should have control
- Student D: cheese stick ate the text :x
- Student Can't shut us out that easily
- Teacher Now I have an IM bar, but no presets or control panel...
Bugscope Team try hitting refresh quickly, see if that does it
- Bugscope Team whoops, OK, now the one logged in as Teacher will have control
- Bugscope Team now teacher has control.
- Student Can we just do this the rest of the period?
- Bugscope Team so try to refresh your browser?
- Student Obi-Wan is on to something...
- Student don't give the teacher control, then we can
- Bugscope Team use the force
- Bugscope Team Is the screen made large enough to show the presets and controls to the right?
- Teacher No luck... suggestions?
- Bugscope Team lisa, also make sure your browser window is expanded.
- Student Thanks
- Bugscope Team Everyone should have the presets showing, regardless of whether they have control or not, so if they're missing maybe the window isn't large enough?
- Bugscope Team try giving one of the students control you guys
- Student we can see it
- Bugscope Team can we call?
- Student Where is Tony?
- Bugscope Team and the presets
- Student yes
- Bugscope Team tonight's dinner is what I like to call: i have been eating this chicken soup for a week
- Student He's missing out!
- Bugscope Team Tony Blair?
- Student 509-372-7294
- Student lisa says call that number
- Bugscope Team we are calling now
- Bugscope Team ooh stepped in that
- Bugscope Team tony the FEI service guy?
- Student tony parker
- Bugscope Team yeah I love your mimickry of him
- Student he is cuter than all these other tony's
- Bugscope Team hahaha
- Bugscope Team with his eyes closed, big dude
- Bugscope Team We're gonna have to edit chat so I don't get beat up.
- Student we won't beat you
- 6:41pm
- Student we just think this is fun
- Bugscope Team it's tony we're scared of!
- Bugscope Team the Tony guy Annie was talking about is a bodybuilder
- Student Let's go just drop Barbies again.
- Student Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Tony
- Student that was pretty awesome
- Student lets put the rubber bands around their necks instead
- Student That would be more fun.
- Student I wish
- Bugscope Team making a big pot of soup seems like such a good idea when you make it
- Student Nice
- Student not britt
- Student her name is lame
- Student Actually, Britt is her nickname. Real name is Hildegard
- Student The power is mine!
- Student britts captain planet? D:
- Student well obi's real name is dilbert
- Bugscope Team the restaurant in Kansas City that grossed me out was called Soup Exchange.
- Student I'm not gonna worry about that--I mean, Cheesestick?
- Bugscope Team exchange?!
- Bugscope Team ok, here we go!
- Bugscope Team okay is that Britt drivin'?
- Bugscope Team yeah Exchange.
- Bugscope Team yep, Britt has control, she just hit a preset
- Student yup!
- Bugscope Team sounds suspect
- Bugscope Team spider fangs
- Student cool
- Bugscope Team Britt -- feel free to ask us any questions about control. You can use Click to Center to make small movements, Click to Drive to really cruise a ways
- Student Would this be a radioactive spider by chance?
- Bugscope Team this is the trick -- stopping when you want to.
- Bugscope Team Focus for when the image is blurry, and adjust is for changing the brightness of the image if it's too dark or too light
- Bugscope Team it's radioactive now
- Student Is that hair?
Bugscope Team It's the insect equivalent that we call setae. It's used for many purposes, some of them sensory
- Bugscope Team it's an antenna or a limb with setae on it
- 6:46pm
- Bugscope Team the setae are mechano or chemosensory
- Student so it doesn't crash into things?
- Bugscope Team yeah mechano is like cat or rat whiskers
- Student or for sensation?
Bugscope Team both, they use setae to taste and smell as well
- Bugscope Team goes to nerves inside the cuticle
- Bugscope Team there is different innervation and hair morphology based on the function
- Bugscope Team Is there an old version of FF?
- Student Fantastic Four?
- Bugscope Team refresh
- Student it's fixed
- Bugscope Team excellent
- Student Go Bulls!
- Student I feel like Gulliver in the land of the Lilliputians
- Bugscope Team base of fang below
- Student that looks like an ear
- Student So, are tarantulas just covered in setae?
Bugscope Team exactly
- Bugscope Team anytime you want us to switch control to someone else, just let us know
- Bugscope Team let us know when you would like control transferred
- Bugscope Team Ah, that's the joint of a leg I believe, maybe an antenna
- Student I'm learning already.
- Student so all hair on insects are setae?
Bugscope Team Yes...I am trying to think of exceptions, but I can't think of any
- Student Can we switch the controls to another student?
- Bugscope Team yes, who?
- Bugscope Team tarantulas also have irritating hairs that they let loose to get you away from them
- Bugscope Team sure, I'll send them to kelly?
- Student not it
- Bugscope Team Ok, Kelly's it!
- Student Kelly's in the driver's seat!
- Student Alrighty
- Student Not it
- 6:51pm
- Bugscope Team hairs are called trichae, setae, microtrichae, microsetae...
- Student so do these aid in movement at all?
- Student are they distinguished by size of by where they are on the body?
Bugscope Team They are distinguished by their size and outward appearance, which reflects their function
- Bugscope Team This is on the haltere of the fruit fly, which acts like a gyroscope to help stabilize the motion of it's flight
- Student or*
- Student Are we looking at setae again?
- Bugscope Team yes, all those long thing things. the neat spiral ones are "hypertrophied sensory organs"
- Student I think Cheesestick needs to try this
- Student you can't give up already
- Bugscope Team sorry cs has it now
- Bugscope Team cheesestick has control
- Student So, why is the picture in negative?
Bugscope Team it's not really negative. it's in B&W because we're not using light, we're hitting the sample with electrons to image it. the detector we use is monochromatic
- Bugscope Team the haltere is like a punching bag that bounces back and forth, those spiral structures help sense the motion
- Bugscope Team uh oh that's a new one
- Bugscope Team I think it just looks negative.
- Student ahh
- Student Thanks
- Bugscope Team the presets are usually better -- these have not held still well since we made them
- Bugscope Team a good opportunity to try focus though
- Student that looks like dragon scales
- Bugscope Team de-magnify to see the context, it's really neat
- Bugscope Team the band from the 80's called The Monochrome Set.
- Bugscope Team this is actually the ball in a ball-and-socket joint for the leg of the insect
- Bugscope Team yes, if you lower the mag, you can see more of the bug and get a better idea of what the context is.
- Bugscope Team but it's covered with those scale-like structures
- 6:56pm
- Bugscope Team click to stop
- Bugscope Team click to start driving, then click again to stop, there ya go
- Student what are we looking at now?
- Bugscope Team umm
- Bugscope Team ummm..
- Bugscope Team I'm a little lost. I"ll know once we finish driving and zoom out a bit
- Bugscope Team we are moving now
- Bugscope Team ouch, guys...the electrons are itchy
- Student So, dandruff?
- Bugscope Team take the mag down so we can see where in the fjord we are
- Student i like to do everything at fast speeds
- Student I'm not gonna touch that one.
- Student What the heck is "urticating"?
Bugscope Team utricating is what a tarantula does when it flicks hairs off of its abdomen...they itch when they stick in you and they can irritate your respiratory system
Bugscope Team cause a stinging or prickling sensation like that given by a nettle : [as adj. ]
- Student someone else can go now
- Bugscope Team i was just gonna ask the same thing
- Bugscope Team it means making itch
- Bugscope Team or what Chasimodo says:
- Student poison ivy makes me urticate??
- Student Does is something really sticking out of the eye of the fruit fly?
Bugscope Team yes, that's another seta. the frequency with which the seta show up between the occelli (facets of the eye) seems to depend on the complexity of the eye
- Bugscope Team urticaria is itching
- Bugscope Team sounds like urinate
- Bugscope Team yeah it is another sensory seta
- Bugscope Team good time to speak up Cathy
- Student Yeah, Cathy
- Bugscope Team hahaahaha
- Student pass on controls to heraclio
- Student Thanks, Cathy!
- Bugscope Team hero got controls!
- Bugscope Team don't pick on Cathy!
- Student Sorry
- Student oh no someon put me in a place of authority :D
- Student Cathy rocks!
- Bugscope Team these help the flies sense changes in the wind direction
- Student Dang, there's a ton
- Student hot diggity, you drive good
- Bugscope Team There you go, You know she made today's sample and did a great job.
- Student can we send plants or any other material
Bugscope Team sure, but keep in mind it's an electron scope, so the sample should be small.
- Bugscope Team drive well?
- Bugscope Team umm you can send tiny pieces of dried plants, yeah
- Bugscope Team setae
- Bugscope Team lots of broken seta there
- Student does is???
- Student this is moving sloooooow D:
Bugscope Team what do you mean hear? driving is slow?
- 7:01pm
- Bugscope Team fungus looks especially cool under the electron microscope
- Bugscope Team hey that looks good hercules
- Student good one thanks
- Student oops :D
- Student his name is broccoli
- Student lets try that again
- Bugscope Team click to center is easier to control
- Student human hair would work also?
- Student yeah, it worked a lot better for me
- Bugscope Team better for short movements, to center in on stuff
- Student What human hair?
- Bugscope Team nice here
- Bugscope Team nice!
- Student its so big ^.^
- Student so who's next?
- Student I'll drive
- Bugscope Team bacteria are 2 microns long, generally.
- Student How big is a micron?
Bugscope Team millionth of a meter
- Bugscope Team yeah you are driving the microscope
- Bugscope Team a micron is a micrometer or a millionth of a meter
- Bugscope Team for reference, human hair is about 40-60 microns, bacteria about 2 microns long
- Bugscope Team a thousandth of a millimeter
- Bugscope Team 10000 angstroms
- Student are we supposed to know the metric system?
Bugscope Team it sure comes in handy
- Student Hello?
- Student lol
- Student hi
- Bugscope Team yeah you are supposed to know the metric system
- Bugscope Team supposed to...it really makes sense...it is all powers of 100...
- Student You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
- Student hehehe
- Student Royale with Cheese
- Bugscope Team a royale with cheese
- Student use your grafting calculator :)
- Student Le Big Mac
- Bugscope Team so do we need to transfer control to the next student?
- Bugscope Team Obi you are in the wrong movie dude.
- Student yes
- Student yeah, it's going to Obi
- Student i dont like beef
- Bugscope Team obi-wan has the forc.... er, control
- 7:06pm
- Bugscope Team okay ben, your move
- Bugscope Team may the force be with you
- Student and also with you
- Bugscope Team I dunno I didn't go to Burger King.
- Student What's the most interesting thing you have seen under the electron microscope?
- Bugscope Team we're at 12,000 times magnified right now btw. Light microscopes are limited by the laws of physics to roughly 2,000x
- Student what is that
Bugscope Team pulvillus are the sticky things on the "hands" of bugs that help them attach to things
- Bugscope Team mites are cool, brochosomes are cool
- Student what about ribosomes?
Bugscope Team much smaller! intra-cellular... thus not visible to us. you can see them with transmission electron microscopy though
- Bugscope Team brochosomes are cool
- Bugscope Team ticks on a tick were cool..remember that Cathy and Scott?
- Bugscope Team ribosomes are too small and don't look so clean in an SEM, but a TEM...
- Student pollen?
- Student What's this white thing?
- Student What is that between the hairlike structures?
Bugscope Team some have chemosensory (e.g. taste/smell) pores at the tips of the hairs, some are surrounded by nerves at the base (mechanosensory)
- Bugscope Team pollen actually is cool-looking
- Student so you have a slide of pollen?
- Bugscope Team the pulvillus is the sticky pad that has these tenent setae on it
- Bugscope Team the setae on a gecko are like one-tenth the diameter of these
- Student What's this thing?
Bugscope Team a piece of dirt/dust most likely
- Bugscope Team nice zoom there ben, you are driving very good. the force is strong with this one.
- Bugscope Team Annie must be working on her cake.
- Student what about the cotton ball looking structre, what is that?
- Student In my experience, there's no such thing as luck.
- Bugscope Team is that another film quote?
- Student Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
- Bugscope Team don't og near the light
- Bugscope Team go
- Student both, cuz they both have fool in the word
- Bugscope Team control to debaser?
- Bugscope Team good one cheese
- Student Seriously, have you WATCHED the movie?
- Student so if we don't know the answers to students questions do we make up words? thay may never know
Bugscope Team just wikipedia it real quick.... that's what we resort to when we get questions we've never handled before
- 7:12pm
- Student what are the cotton ball looking things?
Bugscope Team can you specify what you're looking at?
- Bugscope Team what one of the star wars movies?
- Bugscope Team not since the empire strikes back, for me
- Bugscope Team okay, debaser has control
- Bugscope Team it seems so overwrought
- Student the big black ball or one of white in the middle of the screen
- Student I have felt scientists make up these terms but was afraid to call them on it
Bugscope Team a lot of times the words are just composites of a lot of simpler things. there's a lot of that in german
- Student the empire strikes back is the best one
- Student Um, the one we've been quoting from. Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope--1977
- Bugscope Team what word did we make up?
- Bugscope Team right
- Bugscope Team Chas was wondering about that as well.
- Student Empire is the best one, but I really liked Revenge of the Sith--especially the lightsaber fights at the end
- Student much better then putting your face on the copy machine
- Student Well who labeled it odd if no one knows?
- Student heck yeah there is. German is full of very very long words
- Student What
- Bugscope Team what word?
- Student What's an odd ant
- Student One who doesn't know how to march!
- Bugscope Team Oh 'cause it has these hexagons in it, here -- that was a surprise to us
- Bugscope Team they aren't cells of course
- Bugscope Team zoom out to see where it transitions between the two types
- Bugscope Team the cuticle is nonliving
- Student So what causes the difference that we're seeing?
- Bugscope Team we can resolve, with this 'scope, the difference between two objects that are 2 nm apart
- Bugscope Team with the TEM we can resolve 2 Angstroms
- Student and this is?
- Student does this work in color, or is it all on the black and white scale?
Bugscope Team color is due to our ability to sense intensity of light at several wavelenghts. the detector the SEM uses can't distinguish between wavelengths, so we just get intensity, B&W
Bugscope Team by nature, it is black and white, color can be added later, based on elemental analysis of the sample
- Bugscope Team all with a perfect sample, etc.
- Bugscope Team a high-end TEM can actually image the atoms of some things
- Bugscope Team we are using electrons, whose wavelengths are much smaller than the wavelengths of visible light
- Student OK, I relinquish my control...
- 7:17pm
- Bugscope Team the posterior
- Bugscope Team so we see only gray scale images
- Student this may really freak out some youngsters. a new generation of shut in's
- Student do the actual images come in color though?
Bugscope Team no
Bugscope Team you can colorize the images using other information, but no matter what you'd never see the same color as your eyes do because the electrons interact with the sample much differently than light does
- Bugscope Team if you see SEM images in color they have been false colored
- Bugscope Team well even if this were color, we would still be seeing this gray because of the metal coating
- Bugscope Team good point Cathy
- Student and all we got to do was cut open worms
- Bugscope Team the sample looks silver were you to see it in your hand
- Bugscope Team a point taken from you scott at open house
- Bugscope Team excrement
- Bugscope Team the stinger is covered in goo
- Bugscope Team i think that is the stinger
- Bugscope Team it is probably the liquid that was in the stinger
- Student cool
- Student It's Audi's turn!
- Bugscope Team the things that cause different wavelengths of light to be differentially absorbed or reflected have no effect on the way the electrons interact w/ the sample
- Bugscope Team ok, audi has control. zoom zoom!
- Bugscope Team I believe that's mazda
- Bugscope Team zoom zoom zoom...
- Bugscope Team this is one of the palps on the ladybug mouth that looks like a vacuum cleaner
- Bugscope Team heh
- Bugscope Team cool
- Student why are some lady bugs colors other than red?
Bugscope Team different species of lady bugs are different colors...just like birds or horses
- Student They're not embarrassed
- Bugscope Team prob'ly in their food
- Student If this is a ladybug, are those the black spots that we actually see in the top right corner?
Bugscope Team no, this lady bug is on it's back, so the spots aren't visible. those are bubbles in the tape we use to hold them down. we wouldn't see the spots anyways because this image is only topographical
- Bugscope Team you guys are having way too much fun, arn't ya?
- Student yup
- Bugscope Team the color and marking all has to do with camoflage, finding mates, or sending messages like "I'm poisonous"
- Student Fo shizzle
- Bugscope Team no no the ladybug is on its back
- Bugscope Team the spots are on the background -- the carbon tape
- Student so the color of the lady bug is like natural selection?
- Student You are what you eat
Bugscope Team like flamingos
- 7:22pm
- Bugscope Team ok Jabba
- Bugscope Team topographical meaning we only get contrast due to surface structure, not color/marking
- Student You know, flamingos aren't pink until they eat shrimp
- Student that looks like the aliens from independence day that attack will smith
- Bugscope Team obi beat me to it
- Bugscope Team they need the carotenoid pigments
- Student Ah yeah
- Student interesting
- Bugscope Team a horse of a different color
- Student Different strokes for different folks
- Bugscope Team people with red hair have phaeomelanin rather than melanin
- Bugscope Team you might be thinking of the Asian multicolored ladybeetle...which is polymorphic...has many different color morphs
- Bugscope Team Cya guys!
- Student do the spikes aid in chewing?
Bugscope Team maybe, it is hard to know when the bug isn't chewing
- Student i'll never look at her the same again
- Bugscope Team cysteine and methionine residues in phaeomelanin -- with sulfur
- Bugscope Team I think the spikes are more like filtering the food
- Student do you have bad dreams for this Scott
- Student Alrighty, Adm can have a go at it
- Student Like "how do you know when a politician is lying?--his mouth is moving?"
- Bugscope Team adm has control of the scope!
- Bugscope Team was that a nonsequitur Alex?
- Bugscope Team nice
- Student Hit it Tony
- Bugscope Team you can see the compound eyes
- Bugscope Team on either side of the head
- Student this is making me hungary
- Student the country
- Student hungry
- Student oops
- Bugscope Team oh adm not alex
- Student you must be an english major
- Bugscope Team sorry
- Student Ya think?
- Student perhaps
- 7:27pm
- Student As a matter of fact, I am HUNGRY.
- Student me too
- Bugscope Team english and biology here; made me an electron microscopist and copy editor
- Bugscope Team not respectively, I guess
- Bugscope Team I was in grave danger of being an engllish teacher
- Bugscope Team i always liked bio
- Student Biographies
- Student Are you guys wearing white coats?
Bugscope Team i am wearing baggy pants and a shamrock shuffle tshirt
- Bugscope Team yes, and saftey glasses
- Student and black glasses
- Bugscope Team we can
- Student with pens sticking out of your pockets
- Student what about gloves?
- Student how long do the specimens stay preserved enough to use
Bugscope Team forever, unless they rot---which doesn't happen unless they are wet
- Student Hey, dont knock the black glasses...
- Student soory cant drive and type
Bugscope Team no problem, you are doing very well!
- Student pocket protectors
- Student with a white coat and pens sticking out of the pocket???
- Student This was the best ever
- Student thanks so much guys, that was a lot of fun
- Student Good times had by all..thanks
- Student Thanks you guys....this was an awesome experience
- Student this was really cool
- Bugscope Team are you done? not yet!
- Student We'll miss you all. The force will be with you.....always.
- Student lame name and lame sign off!!
- Student thanks for letting us take a peak
- Student Thanks for the micro lesson thingie with the scopes of the none minty flavor
- Bugscope Team we had one guy get quite offended a year or so ago
- Student They don't want us to go yet, Teach!
- Bugscope Team and it was with one of our milder admins
- Student that would definitely not be this group, we are all pretty down to earth and in touch with reality
- Student thank you for your time :)
- Student Seacrest--OUT! Now, that's a sign off.
- Bugscope Team hey thank you!
- Bugscope Team thank you! you guys were a lot of fun.!
- Bugscope Team thank you guys for logging in
- Student what is reality?
- Bugscope Team over and out
- Bugscope Team thanks guys
- Student That's another class Tony...
- Bugscope Team chowzers
- Student thanks-adios
- Bugscope Team good last question adm
- Bugscope Team hasta lazanga don't get any on ya
- 7:32pm
- Student Captain's log--stardate 051707...
- Bugscope Team okay I am out the door, soon, I guess
- Bugscope Team Thankyou Lisa!
- Bugscope Team i thought they went till 8:30? are we really done?
- Bugscope Team thank you Lisa!!!
- Bugscope Team no we are really done Holmes
- Bugscope Team Okay really Bye!
- Bugscope Team how many times can be say bye before we explode.
- Bugscope Team hey, i'm the only one left. bye bye
