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Live Session Transcript

Connected on 2007-05-10 10:15:00 from Urbana, Illinois, USA

10:12am
Bugscope Team hey hey
Bugscope Team I am not late!
Bugscope Team hey annie
Bugscope Team we are late
Bugscope Team we are waiting for the scope to vacuuum down, then we are going to make presets
Bugscope Team Yeah...I am the reason that the specimens were not there early
Bugscope Team I had sick head yesterday and walked off and left them in the lab
Bugscope Team it's okay, i think we'll be fine.
Bugscope Team scope is real close, we'll zip through the presets
Bugscope Team no problemo annie
Bugscope Team annie, when we are making presets, if you could help us identify, that would be great!
Bugscope Team scott is out today
Bugscope Team Right...in Texas
Bugscope Team yes yes
Bugscope Team I can help ID everything!
Bugscope Team cool beans
Bugscope Team Matthew is trying to do this unit on sound production
Bugscope Team So we are going to want to try to zoom in on the sound production areas.
Bugscope Team yeah, the sample is a big head, some detatched legs parts, etc.
Bugscope Team I hope we can get a good shot of the cerambycid leg!
10:17am
Bugscope Team cathy is driving to the legs now
Bugscope Team scott?
Bugscope Team Yeah man
Bugscope Team hahah
Bugscope Team I am in the airport at my gate
Bugscope Team Aren't you supposed to be on vacation?
Bugscope Team cool dude!
Bugscope Team class is late, havn't seen em yet. we are making presets
Bugscope Team What does EVDO mean on my cell phone?
Bugscope Team a text message?
Bugscope Team had to pay $6.95 for a day connection in the terminal.
Bugscope Team You mean I am supposed to have a text message?
Bugscope Team yuck
Bugscope Team which bug is the one that uses its legs for sound
Bugscope Team can we zoom out a bit?
Bugscope Team or is this a big leg?
Bugscope Team its just a leg
Bugscope Team class called, they are loggin in soon
Bugscope Team yup a leg--nothing too interesting sound production wise so far
Bugscope Team this looks like a cricket wing..well it did
Bugscope Team Hi Franze!
10:22am
Teacher Hi Alex
Bugscope Team We are making a couple of presets for you, hang on a second please
Teacher cool
Teacher ok

Teacher Okay Thanks
Bugscope Team a hair!
Teacher thats pretty cool
Student ewwww
Teacher oh my.. joy
Student ewwwwwwwww
Teacher the hair is hairy
Teacher yes
Student poop
Bugscope Team someone's eye ball
Teacher ha
Student is that a leg?
Bugscope Team part of one
Student hi
Bugscope Team Hi there, we are making presets for you, please give us a second.
Bugscope Team I can answer questions in the meantime
Student what insect is this?
Bugscope Team ummm...dunno yet...
Student the screen hath goneth blanketh

Bugscope Team refresheth
Student so NOW what is it (eth)
Bugscope Team this is double sided carbon tape
Bugscope Team eth
Student oh (eth) ok i'll stop. so great carbon tape, huh?
Bugscope Team yes the most interesting entomological thing ever
Student ya so cool
Student how do we operateth the microscope?
Student and how do we findeth the insect
Bugscope Team Oh man -- a click beetle? Cool.
10:27am
Bugscope Team Somebody gotta take the mag down.
Student is that still the fascinating carbon tape?
Bugscope Team no...zoom out
Bugscope Team this is the critter
Bugscope Team this is part of a bug...
Bugscope Team well head for the head then, I guess
Student i can't change the magnification tho...
Bugscope Team should be north
Bugscope Team Zed, et. al.: we'll give you the controls in just a minute. they will only show up on one screen at a time
Bugscope Team looks like the mag is as low as it does with this wording distance

Bugscope Team okay, we have 3 presets, we are ready, sorry for the delay!
Bugscope Team OK, Z.E.M: do you see some new controls showing up to the right of the image?
Student no
Bugscope Team Here's the tape, and Ag paint, and a big ol' leg.
Bugscope Team zed et al have control
Student well we have some but we can't click on zem.
Bugscope Team now Test does.
Bugscope Team OK, sorry, I was just testing to make sure thing were working
Bugscope Team now zed et al again
Bugscope Team the controls should be visible again, and we've "unlocked" them now that we're done setting up
Bugscope Team So go ahead and try controlling!
Student i can't see the typed stuff below!
Bugscope Team can you try hitting F5, or refresh your screen?
Bugscope Team does that help?
Student no
Bugscope Team joan, did you have a chance to turn off the firewall, and or use firefox?
Student well actually i can't even see the messages. somebody on the other comp is telling me what you are saying.
10:32am
Bugscope Team they're on IE7 (?)
Bugscope Team that's a new one
Bugscope Team i'm going to give control to nemo or Franze, who should i give control to?
Bugscope Team While we are working out the bugs (no pun intended), who at CMS can tell me two ways insects make sound?
Teacher nemo
Bugscope Team captain nemo
Bugscope Team zed, who is it that is telling you what we are saying, okay, nemo
Teacher HI
Teacher franze
Bugscope Team i just gave control to nemo, nemo can you try driving the scope?
Teacher they bang their heads
Bugscope Team yes....some do
Teacher and they push air
Teacher we dont have the controls
Bugscope Team yes....
Teacher we are smart
Bugscope Team indubitably
Bugscope Team nemo: are you sure the window is big enough, the controls will be off to hte right of the main image
Bugscope Team I had no doubts
Bugscope Team hello purple frog!
Teacher no its not big enough
Teacher =(
Teacher so.
Bugscope Team so you can't resize it large enough?
Teacher nope
Bugscope Team so you see the image but not the text, or what
Bugscope Team ?
Bugscope Team can you go to View and make changes?
Teacher we can see the image but not the controls on the right
Bugscope Team OK, so that's a very small screen. Try this please:
10:38am
Student we can't see the SCREENETH!!!!! grr...
Bugscope Team un-maximize the window, then drag it to the left so the left-half is obscured, then drag it out larger on the right hand side se you can see the controls
Teacher we got the controls on the right but then the chat gets cut off
Bugscope Team You girls are so Shakespearian

Teacher we have it all now
Bugscope Team OK, well your screen size is so small that it's going to be a problem. Alex is going to describe how to change the screen resolution
Bugscope Team Ok...more bug trivia: what are some "reasons" that insects make noise?
Teacher the chat and the controls
Bugscope Team good deal!
Bugscope Team OH, ok. what fixed it?
Bugscope Team Great

Bugscope Team 'cause they want attention?
Bugscope Team yes...just like me...
Teacher to find a mate
Bugscope Team nemo, do you have it, try a control, click to center, or click to drive, let's see if it works
Bugscope Team yes....what other reasons?
Bugscope Team yep!
Bugscope Team umm
Bugscope Team think hissing cockroaches...
Bugscope Team Nemo: now that you've got the controls in view, can you give them a try?
Teacher it looks like a cricket

Bugscope Team Oops, wrong direction. we just went off the stub there
Bugscope Team this is what we call the "edge of the stub"
Bugscope Team try the other direction
Bugscope Team the edge of the world
Bugscope Team nemo, when driving, click once to start, and again to stop. try click to center first, it's a bit easier

10:43am
Teacher legs?
Bugscope Team it's a leg
Bugscope Team there ya go, good job! click to move, click again to stop
Bugscope Team you can also click one of hte preset images to the lower right to jump to an interesting spot

Bugscope Team the tarsus shjould be to the right
Bugscope Team it's a hairy leg
Bugscope Team setae-ridden
Teacher yes it is
Bugscope Team We can zoom in some more and then adjust the focus to get a clearer image

Teacher what is this
Bugscope Team this is a spiracle
Bugscope Team this is a spiracle on the side of an adbomen of a bug
Teacher oh cool
Bugscope Team this is a big bug...I am thinking the cockroach.
Teacher so that's where the air gets pushed out from
Bugscope Team but it could also be a cricket
Bugscope Team yup
Teacher oh

Bugscope Team but they don't have lungs, so their poorer ability to breath is actually what limits their size (why you don't see insects as big as dogs, horses, etc)
Bugscope Team try increasing the mag and click to center, you might be able to get a better look inside the spiracle

Teacher this isnemo
Bugscope Team looks like we lost nemo, we can give control to someone else? who?
Teacher *this is nemo
Bugscope Team i just gave control to mad mara, go ahead
Teacher we are nemo the comp messed up
Bugscope Team OK, the controls should have been transferred to that screen
Teacher so we have a diff nick name

Bugscope Team cool

Bugscope Team Now try "click to center"

Bugscope Team OOF
Bugscope Team Great, now we need to focus a bit to get a clear image
Teacher can we get a pic of that
Bugscope Team all of the images you see today are archived along with the chat and you'll have access to them after the session
Bugscope Team looks like some dirt is in the spiracle, a bug bugger
Bugscope Team which is a smaller division of a spiracle...the spiracle is on the outside (like a nostril) and the tracheae are on the inside (like our lungs)
10:48am
Teacher could we get a pic of that?
Teacher BYE =)
Bugscope Team where are you guys going?
Bugscope Team done
Teacher the other students geta chance now
Teacher thanks -)
Teacher *** =)
Bugscope Team ahh..bye guys
Teacher Cicada
Bugscope Team next victims...I mean, um students
Teacher aw soooo sweet buh-bye =p
Teacher oh dear
Bugscope Team is that what this is Franze?
Bugscope Team I didn't know
Teacher no this is probably the hissing cockroach
Bugscope Team that's what I thought...
Bugscope Team yea there were 2 big bugs that were brought in: a cicada and a cockroach

Teacher Can we see the cicada
Teacher !
Bugscope Team we only put on a part of the big bugs, the parts that are used for sounds
Teacher so is this the cockroach or the cicada
Bugscope Team there was one where we put the shell on the stub of one of the bugs
10:53am
Teacher ?
Bugscope Team Sorry, most of us didn't get to see the bugs before the went in the microscope. The best way to help us identify them is to zoom out and move around so we can see more of the samples
Bugscope Team and we used the legs of another bug only

Bugscope Team if this is the cicada, if you drive south, you should be able to tell what it is by its terminalia

Bugscope Team back to the right now a bit
Bugscope Team great!
Bugscope Team further down, Annie?
Bugscope Team just a smidge
Bugscope Team Try click to center now, that give finer control of movement.
Bugscope Team yeah, I think this is the cicada

Teacher that is not the cicada
Bugscope Team no?
Teacher becuase a cicada we subbmitedt did not have a rear end
Bugscope Team Well, I was just looking at the gap between the plates
Bugscope Team anyway...let's drive around and look at other things...
Bugscope Team no use arguing
Bugscope Team or whatever we are doing
Bugscope Team what about the cricket wing
Bugscope Team a cicada is about the size of a bus in the microscope
10:58am
Bugscope Team takes up all the room on the stub
Bugscope Team These are probably the cricket wings here
Teacher yup
Bugscope Team you can see the venation
Bugscope Team OOF
Bugscope Team we could focus it up a bit too

Bugscope Team You can use the "click to adjust" tool to increase the contrast, it might bring out some more features in the image there

Teacher It does not help alot

Bugscope Team try focusing

Bugscope Team we're still out of focus too, you can see the focus is on the thing in the background
Bugscope Team like from here
Bugscope Team try focusing the other way now, it's working, just need to focus the other direction.

Bugscope Team hey, pollen!
Bugscope Team better...
Bugscope Team Oh yeah!
Bugscope Team cool, great job focussing on the foreground there
Teacher thanks
Bugscope Team I just caught a glipse of some pollen grains in the background, right of the center at the lower part of the image now
Teacher see ya we are switching off now
Bugscope Team now of course Chas wants you to focus on the background
Bugscope Team Awww...
Bugscope Team bye Franze
Teacher :)
Bugscope Team Thanks You All!
Bugscope Team is anyone else going to control, or are you all going?
11:03am
Student we're switching groups

Student may we pleas have the controls?

Bugscope Team Done
Student thanks
Bugscope Team weird!

Bugscope Team pollen!!
Bugscope Team They're "charging up" with electrons right now, thus the weird contrast

Bugscope Team all of these things we're looking at had to be coated with a super-fine layer of metal to make the surface conductive

Bugscope Team we're shooting all these electrons at it (because it's an electron microscope) and that's essentially like a flow of electricity
Bugscope Team back to the cricket wing
Bugscope Team so the electrical charge has to have some way to flow out of the sample, to ground
Student cool!
Student what is it?
Bugscope Team is this a ladybug larva?
Bugscope Team gnarly
Bugscope Team Can you zoom in now?
Bugscope Team annie, any idea?
Bugscope Team no i dont know what this is

Bugscope Team It looks like it might be a section of something that was taken from a larger insect
Bugscope Team uh oh
Bugscope Team hmm

Bugscope Team it could be the base of a leg
Bugscope Team it doesnt look familiar to me
Bugscope Team the the femus
Bugscope Team femur
Bugscope Team could be annie
Bugscope Team heh, you just drove off the scope. now back on, yee hooo!
Bugscope Team the femus ^^
Bugscope Team hey cool.
Bugscope Team This is a really big part of something, whatever it is
Bugscope Team :P
Student what is this?
Bugscope Team drive north a little to see
Bugscope Team north and maybe east
Bugscope Team this might be part of the cicada actually, if you see a huge eye with some paint on it
Bugscope Team good job driving
Bugscope Team there's an EYE
Bugscope Team to the left
Bugscope Team yeah, that looks like a cicada to me
Bugscope Team cicarda!!!
11:08am
Bugscope Team D'Oh.
Bugscope Team ciabarium
Bugscope Team more to the left, the big spherical thing is the eye
Student awesome
Bugscope Team bruiser
Student whats the tymbal?
Student oh. it's me, rosa.
Bugscope Team haha
Bugscope Team the microscope has a lower bound of ~44x magnification here, so with an insect this large, 44x bigger means we can only see a small section of it at once
Bugscope Team do you remember?
Student ahem...no
Bugscope Team hahaha
Bugscope Team eyeball
Bugscope Team it is ok...you're supposed to forget all that stuff now!
Student yay
Bugscope Team Homoptera...;)
Bugscope Team how come there's no color?
Bugscope Team this should be red
Student is this the tymbal?
Bugscope Team I'm not familiar with what it looks like, perhaps Annie knows?

Bugscope Team i am not sure either
11:14am
Bugscope Team this looks like a coxa...a leg base kind of
Bugscope Team from what I'm reading here, it sounds like it should appear ribbed
Bugscope Team but the tymbals are located near the base of the legs...
Bugscope Team in some insects
Bugscope Team i was told that whatever we wanted to see on the cicada was on its side

Bugscope Team could use some focussing now at this higher magnification

Bugscope Team maybe drive south a bit

Bugscope Team so the reason that cicadas have this weird alien head is that there are powerful muscles underneat that ridged surface that allows them to suck sap out of roots
11:19am
Bugscope Team other homoptera, like leaf and plant hoppers have this kind of muscular pump on their foreheads as well
Bugscope Team Wow, people have done a really detailed study of the tymbal
Bugscope Team they know exactly how loud it is when it's flexing inwards vs. popping back outward, how much air it displaces, etc
Student ok. we're leaving! thank you for having us!
Bugscope Team Bye guys. Thank you!!!
Bugscope Team glad to have you on!
Bugscope Team I also have to run. I have to be at school in 10 minutes. That is a fast bike ride for a sick girl
Bugscope Team Thanks for the great session!
Bugscope Team bye bye!
Bugscope Team Bye annie, take care of yourself.

School Name	Campus Middle School
School Homepage	http://www.campusms.org/index.html
Location	Urbana Illinois, USA
Community	Suburban
Type	Private

Subjects Taught	Zoology
Grades Taught	7th
Number of Students	12

Project Title	Insect Mouth Parts
Insects To Study	Matthew Richardson was going to get the insects
Project Description	Our class is studying arthropods and we will use the project to look at how various insects mouthparts have evolved in different ways to adapt to how and what they eat. Our school is a private all girls middle school. The seventh grade is a multicultural class with some girls whose parents come from India, Korea, China, and Iraq.

Session 2007-020 with Campus Middle School

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Live Session Transcript

Connected on 2007-05-10 10:15:00 from Urbana, Illinois, USA